The bill was portrayed by the sponsor as an homage to the Vietnamese refugees. Everyone agreed with the idea.
In all the debates, only the CPC speakers expressed unequivocal support for the bill and all followed the party line laid out in the preamble to the bill: it's an homage to those refugees who are victims of the fall of Saigon. They consistently responded to the claims that the bill was divisive by claiming that it was not divisive. The opposition could only counter with yes, it is divisive. No one really dug into what was causing the divisiveness and what Canada's moral obligations might be on the issue.
Both of the MP's who are of Vietnamese origin expressed opposition to the bill as a divisive bill. They did not, however, object to the partisan pro-Saigon content, in fact they proposed adding to it. While this suggests that they themselves might be partisan, it could also be that they did not understand the issue, not having the necessary knowledge of Canadian history.
Generally all NDP speakers opposed the divisiveness, while only some of the Liberal speakers did. All those who saw problems insisted that it be given a proper committee hearing to find a way to solve the problem. Everyone wanted an homage to the boat people, not just to some of the boat people.
All those who expressed objections indicated that they were hearing from constituents, but it is not clear that they were hearing well-formulated criticisms, only that it was divisive. Anyone with historical knowledge could have formulated valid objections; the bill is objectionable to all Canadians.
The bill went to committee where it was vigorously debated by opposing camps from the Vietnamese community, reaching no useful conclusions. The witnesses were severely limited by imposed time constraints. Opposition MP's complained about this both in the committee and afterward in the House.
The government refused to offer compromises and proceeded with the bill as it was written. It was never their intent to satisfy the Vietnamese community, as our chronologies illustrate.
List of all the debates on bill S-219: (Canada Parliament, 2015).[161]
First reading 2014-12-10
Short introductory speech by Mark Adler (CPC), in which he basically paraphrased the preamble -- the revised origin story.
(Canada HoC Debates, 2014-12-10, p. 10434).[341]
Second reading 2015-02-05
Longer introductory speech by Mark Adler (CPC) that positioned the bill as an homage to the boat people. He never mentioned that it was actually a partisan statement about the Vietnam war. We are to take the origin story in the preamble as a given truth.
The first question was asked by Ms. Quach (NDP), one of only two MP's of Vietnamese origin. She asked that when the committee hearings are held that there be witnesses from both sides of the issue, thereby acknowledging that the bill was divisive and partisan.
Adler responded by claiming that the divisiveness came from the Vietnam ambassador, thereby following the ARVN line that anyone who does not identify with the Saigon regime is a communist. That was a clear "no, we won't". It was also hostility directed at the Vietnamese community. Good start.
Lamoureux (L) spoke next and made the same request. Adler responded by calling the Liberals communist sympathizers.
Quach then went on to make a good speech about the refugees without any partisan content. She ended by saying that everyone must now be allowed to express their own views. She understands that the free speech rights of the community needs to be respected.
Lamoureux then went on to make a speech in favour of the bill, but characterizing it as an homage to the boat people. He demonstrated that he did not understand what the controversy and the bill are really about (it emerged later that he had spoken to only one of his Vietnamese constituents.)
There were 3 more speeches to use up the allotted time that added nothing to the debate.
(Canada HoC Debates, 2015-02-05, pp. 11138-11146).[338]
Second reading 2015-03-23
Just before the debate began, John Baird's resignation was announced.
Kent (CPC) opened with short remarks confirming the revised origin story in the bill's preamble and quoting some of the revised history from the bill.
Mai (NDP) the other MP of Vietnamese origin in a carefully worded speech said that he did not support the bill overall, but that he would not oppose it "at this stage". He did not identify directly what the problem was other than to say it is "divisive".
Dion (L) indicated that he understood that the bill contained major and divisive revisions to Canada's history. He insisted that the committee listen to a long and inclusive list of witnesses.
Opitz (CPC) followed the party line and repeated the revised origin story.
Sitsabaiesan (NDP) Criticized the procedure that had been followed in the Senate. She also indicated that she had read and heard all of the opposition from her constituents and understood what the bill was really about. She essentially deferred to the committee.
Lizon (CPC) followed the party line and added his own anti-communist experiences.
(Canada HoC Debates, 2015-03-25, pp. 12135-12412).[339]
Second reading 2015-03-25
Bill referred to committee. No debate.
(Canada HoC Debates, 2015-03-25, p. 12325).[340]
Committee hearing 2015-04-01
Because of numerous complaints from the Senate and MP's, the government allowed some opposition witnesses into the committee hearing. The witnesses confirmed what the MP's were already hearing -- that the Vietnamese community did not support the bill. The witnesses were put on short time constraints, so they were not able to fully explain the issues with the bill. At the end of it, none of the opposition MP's were in support of the bill although they were careful to say that they were in support of the idea of the bill, that is, an homage to the refugees.
The ARVN side stuck to their story and refused to make any compromise. Their main defense that that they claimed 100% support from the community, even though it was now obvious to everyone that they did not. Senator Ngo said it is not acceptable for Vietnamese community to oppose the bill because of the suffering of the refugees. He tried to minimize the opposition by saying that is was coming from a few Colombo plan students who came to Canada before the war (i.e. not the refugees). He claimed the bill unites the community, when it is obvious that it does not.
There were four witnesses opposed to the bill. Following are some highlights from what they had to say. In general. they were limited by time constraints and were only able to make some high level points.
Dai Trang H. Nguyen explained how the entire Vietnamese community is constantly intimidated by the ARVN political faction in their efforts to make it look like they have 100% support. This bill legitimizes that effort. She made it an issue of freedom of speech for the community. (She was, in different form, echoing our point that the government has a responsibility not to assign people to political factions based only on their ethnicity. Unfortunately she did not point out that the Harper government has been actively supporting that intimidation since 2008 and that it was present in the room ).
Two of the witnesses made credible points about the historical "mistakes" in the bill but did not have time to elaborate on their significance in terms of Canada repudiating its own history.
The points made by McIninch, a witness who is not of Vietnamese origin, were interesting because we have argued that it does not take any special knowledge of the Vietnamese community to discredit this bill. All it takes is freedom from the intimidation that the community faces. Her comments were the most astute in the entire debate: the issue is Canada's moral obligations to its citizens. Some quotes:
Canada has, as the Prime Minister has said, an excellent relationship with Vietnam, a country we have been there for since the nationalist wars against French occupation. Why sacrifice the hopes and dreams – the substantial amounts of good will we have in the bank- over a private member’s bill which has infuriated -and rightfully so –a major power in South-east Asia with whom we share an important partnership in the region.
The Honorable Senator views the fall of Saigon as a great personal tragedy and has now used his position on the government benches to enshrine his views into a calamitous piece of legislation.
The Senator has cloaked the legislative installation of the legacy of the Saigon regime and its followers into the history of this country by a manipulative plunge into the murky waters of division and hatred. And no country is more susceptible to pious rhetoric and misuse of the fine traditions of our land for personal gain.
Make no mistake about it. April 30 is not about refugees or boatpeople or landings on the welcoming soil of Canada.
Dion (L), recognizing the bill was going to pass no matter what, made a commitment that his colleagues would ignore the content of the bill and celebrate the intent. This commitment was not fulfilled, because the content of the commemoration event is to recognize the Saigon regime as a legitimate nation which is inherently hostile toward the refugees.
(Canada HoC Committee, 2015-04-01).[337]
Committee sitting 2015-04-02
Committee report received. No debate.
(Canada HoC Debates, 2015-04-02, p. 12708).[438]
Report Stage and Third reading 2015-04-22
Pacetti (Ind) moved that the date be deleted from the bill, to be reinstated later when the community could come to an agreement. The entire debate was wasted on that red herring, so no understanding was reached on what was wrong with the bill. No one recognized that it was a formal recognition of the Saigon regime as a nation and a renouncing of Canada's moral responsibilities to the boat people (among other things).
No one said that they intended to vote against the bill, but Mai (NDP) and Sgro (NDP) said that the community was divided and that the government should be addressing that. Another Liberal, Lamoureux expressed no concerns about the bill. All three said that they were hearing from constituents.
Kent (CPC) and Adler (CPC) just soaked up time repeating the party line.
Bill passed unanimously.
(Canada HoC Debates, 2015-04-22, pp. 12893-12900).[333]